Meb Faber Show: JD Gardner – Bridging the Behavior Gap

by | Jul 27, 2023 | Appearances, Market Notes, Media Notes

On July 5, 2023, JD Gardner sat down with Meb Faber from Cambria Investment Management. The episode has an overarching theme that can be summarized by a quote from JD himself: “A strategy’s return is much less important than an investor’s return while exposed to the strategy.”

Watch as JD explains how we provide solutions to help bridge the behavioral gap and use options to provide investors with income and downside protection so investors don’t capitulate at the exact wrong time. JD also spends some time discussing the OCIO part of the business and lessons working with advisors in that capacity.

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